I went ahead and downloaded what I considered to be the relevant documents. Unfortunately I am at a complete loss to explain my curiosity in this matter. I hate gossip and equate it with character assassination. While Baldwin has been criminally charged, the conviction is what will matter Baldwin's attorneys will psych the jury out but good. One reason I dislike petit juries is that people are too easily swayed by emotion and some people cannot divorce their own emotions from the necessity of making logical and objective determinations. Even though I can divorce my emotions from when I need to use objective logical decisions based on the evidence, I refuse to serve on petit juries and use my neuropsychiatric disability to get myself excluded from jury duty. If I was on the Baldwin jury I would vote for conviction based on the evidence
The Statement of Probable Cause against Alec Baldwin filed today is damning.
"The photos and videos clearly show BALDWIN, multiple times, with his finger inside of the triggerguard and on the trigger, while manipulating the hammer and while drawing, pointing, and holstering the revolver."
"BALDWIN approached responding deputies on the day of the shooting, wanting to talk to them because he was the one who “…fired…” the gun."
"Statements and evidence show BALDWIN was not present for required firearms training prior to the commencement of filming… A [later] training session for at least an hour or more in length was scheduled, but the actual training consisted of only approximately 30 minutes as according to REED, BALDWIN was distracted and talking on his cell phone to his family during the training."
I am seeing somewhat conflicting information. Armorer Reed was not inside the building so did not hand the gun to Baldwin. But if she was outside and loaded the gun, presumably with dummy rounds, and handed it to Halls to give to Baldwin, then I think that is the same as giving it directly to Baldwin and would bear the same responsibility of making sure it could not be fired.
When the rounds are separate from the gun, there is a big difference between live, blank, and dummy rounds. Blanks have powder or at least a live primer to make noise, and do not have an actual bullet, so are easily seen as different although still dangerous. Dummy rounds do not have powder or primer, but do have some kind of bullet which is clearly visible; the whole point is to make them similar to live rounds for loading function or, in this case, for visibility of the bullets from the camera in front of the gun. Usually demonstration dummy rounds are just red plastic, obviously not real cartridges at all, but these are not suitable (possibly unless the front is painted to look like bullets) for movie function. It requires careful inspection to determine that a cartridge is a dummy, presumably by the absence of a primer so just a hole where the primer would normally be installed in the back, or at least that is how I make them for function testing at home. When loading the revolver, each dummy round should have been separately inspected while loading, and then the cylinder turned again to ensure that yes all of them are indeed dummies; the back of the cartridge can be seen to be primer-less as it passes the loading gate on this type of gun. Just loading from a box marked "dummies" is nowhere near sufficient, if that is what happened.
Thank you for posting the documents Em. It's incredible how us non-District Attorney's were able to point out many of the things weeks and months before the DA's documents were released. Also, we mentioned these things without the assistance of photo's, video's, interviews and witness statements. I say this as bitter-sweet: It's great to discuss this with everyone in this group without fear of reprisal.
Are we interested in this incident to see if AB can wiggle his way out of a Felony and plea bargain to a no-jail/prison time misdemeanor ? We'd want the same Justice for us, a family member or a friend. My wrestling coaches 9 year old son was accidentally killed when an adult neighbor was cleaning his .22 rifle and removed the mag, FORGOT or OVERLOOKED a LIVE round in the chamber & the gun fired.
Em, have you heard whose Trial will be first - AB or Reed ? If Reed's trial is first, will AB adjust his testimony ? AB is looking at the ADDITION of the Firearm charge which would include the added Mandatory Prison sentence of 5 years. While Reed is not, or did I mis-read the documents ?
I went ahead and downloaded what I considered to be the relevant documents. Unfortunately I am at a complete loss to explain my curiosity in this matter. I hate gossip and equate it with character assassination. While Baldwin has been criminally charged, the conviction is what will matter Baldwin's attorneys will psych the jury out but good. One reason I dislike petit juries is that people are too easily swayed by emotion and some people cannot divorce their own emotions from the necessity of making logical and objective determinations. Even though I can divorce my emotions from when I need to use objective logical decisions based on the evidence, I refuse to serve on petit juries and use my neuropsychiatric disability to get myself excluded from jury duty. If I was on the Baldwin jury I would vote for conviction based on the evidence
Thanks for the documents, Emily.
The Statement of Probable Cause against Alec Baldwin filed today is damning.
"The photos and videos clearly show BALDWIN, multiple times, with his finger inside of the triggerguard and on the trigger, while manipulating the hammer and while drawing, pointing, and holstering the revolver."
"BALDWIN approached responding deputies on the day of the shooting, wanting to talk to them because he was the one who “…fired…” the gun."
"Statements and evidence show BALDWIN was not present for required firearms training prior to the commencement of filming… A [later] training session for at least an hour or more in length was scheduled, but the actual training consisted of only approximately 30 minutes as according to REED, BALDWIN was distracted and talking on his cell phone to his family during the training."
Thanks for the update.
Thanks E
If there’d’ve been an NRA Firearms Instructor on set none of this would’ve happened & Halnya Hutchins would still be alive.
Thank you Emily for posting the documents.
I am seeing somewhat conflicting information. Armorer Reed was not inside the building so did not hand the gun to Baldwin. But if she was outside and loaded the gun, presumably with dummy rounds, and handed it to Halls to give to Baldwin, then I think that is the same as giving it directly to Baldwin and would bear the same responsibility of making sure it could not be fired.
When the rounds are separate from the gun, there is a big difference between live, blank, and dummy rounds. Blanks have powder or at least a live primer to make noise, and do not have an actual bullet, so are easily seen as different although still dangerous. Dummy rounds do not have powder or primer, but do have some kind of bullet which is clearly visible; the whole point is to make them similar to live rounds for loading function or, in this case, for visibility of the bullets from the camera in front of the gun. Usually demonstration dummy rounds are just red plastic, obviously not real cartridges at all, but these are not suitable (possibly unless the front is painted to look like bullets) for movie function. It requires careful inspection to determine that a cartridge is a dummy, presumably by the absence of a primer so just a hole where the primer would normally be installed in the back, or at least that is how I make them for function testing at home. When loading the revolver, each dummy round should have been separately inspected while loading, and then the cylinder turned again to ensure that yes all of them are indeed dummies; the back of the cartridge can be seen to be primer-less as it passes the loading gate on this type of gun. Just loading from a box marked "dummies" is nowhere near sufficient, if that is what happened.
Thank you for posting the documents Em. It's incredible how us non-District Attorney's were able to point out many of the things weeks and months before the DA's documents were released. Also, we mentioned these things without the assistance of photo's, video's, interviews and witness statements. I say this as bitter-sweet: It's great to discuss this with everyone in this group without fear of reprisal.
Are we interested in this incident to see if AB can wiggle his way out of a Felony and plea bargain to a no-jail/prison time misdemeanor ? We'd want the same Justice for us, a family member or a friend. My wrestling coaches 9 year old son was accidentally killed when an adult neighbor was cleaning his .22 rifle and removed the mag, FORGOT or OVERLOOKED a LIVE round in the chamber & the gun fired.
Em, have you heard whose Trial will be first - AB or Reed ? If Reed's trial is first, will AB adjust his testimony ? AB is looking at the ADDITION of the Firearm charge which would include the added Mandatory Prison sentence of 5 years. While Reed is not, or did I mis-read the documents ?