Show me the evidence where Hannah is actually responsible? She wanted more time with armorer duties and to review the safety procedures with Baldwin and was refused. Show me that Hannah actually loaded the weapon with a live round knowingly. Show me that the chain of custody of the weapon from the security container, to Hannah, to the director, to Baldwin has no chinks in it. Show me the roster of who was allowed to access the weapon. I believe reasonable doubt exists that Hannah should be convicted of involuntary manslaughter. However, I have a feeling that the jury is easily swayed.
For those interested in firearm safety in the movie business there is a show on the Outdoor Channel on Wednesday night. A guy works with a Hollywood armorer. They recreate shooting scenes of action movies to see how real and possible to work in reality. It shows all the safety that is put into the experiments with all involved. I think the name of the show in Hollywood weapons.
Emily you might want to check it out it is very interesting and anyone who watches the program can see how Baldwin is guilty.
Thanks Emily, the picture of a blank cartridge shows a crimped case (to keep the powder from falling out) that is obviously different than a case with a bullet in it. That kind of blank cartridge would make noise and muzzle flash and smoke if fired, but the case is completely different than the one that had the fatal bullet in it. The holster picture appears to show actual bullets as labeled. Anyone loading the gun should have thought it obvious which was which.
I just now thought that it is possible for Baldwin to have pulled a cartridge from the gun and then loaded the gun from the cartridge loop, substituting a live cartridge that should not have been there instead of the blank, as a normal showing of gun handling before the incident. But that would have left one of the blanks or an empty space in the holster and I see no evicence that that is what happened.
It is my understanding that the police searched the equipment supply company, and were not able to find any live ammunition like the cartridge that was fired. There is no evidence that the live cartridge came from the supply company, and nobody that I know of has any good explanation for its presence on set.
I believe she is a scapegoat. Unless they can prove she loaded the gun and positive proof no one else could have changed the load with live ammo. The case against her is weak, my opinion, she said she loaded the gun, havent heard her statement on how she believed she loaded it, my take she stated loaded with the correct load. But due to being cheap Baldwin had her work several other jobs and she was that day. She gave the gun to someone else who gave it to Baldwin, the gun left her possession. They would have to prove to me that absolutely no one else could have reloaded it. But more may come out at the trial.
This includes a lot of discussion about dummy ammo and one live cartridge that the investigator found in a box of dummy ammo. This live cartridge and one taken from the prop supply company were later taken apart by the FBI and photos taken, showing that the powder in these cartridges (as well as the color of the primers) was different.
While not this testimony, it is my understanding that someone unloaded the gun before the police arrived, so this one on-scene live round might have been taken from the Baldwin gun, or not. But added to the 5 reported live rounds in the holster cartridge loops (not mentioned in this testimony, I don't know why not), that would make seven total live rounds on set including the one that was fired.
There was also one other cartridge in the dummy box that did not rattle to indicate dummy, which was later taken apart by the FBI and found to be a dummy with the rattle BBs present but stuck in place.
I did not notice any discussion of blank ammo such as that pictured in this article.
There was some discussion of "patina" as forming from oxide when sitting around for a long time, but I do not believe that was the case here, I think they were artificially discolored because someone thought they looked better that way for movie props.
There were also a few empty cartridge cases, that either were previously live rounds that had been fired (indicating to me a significant danger of live rounds remaining?), or more of the discolored cases that had not yet been loaded as dummies, but they were not identified other than as being found in the Mary Kay bag with boxes of dummy ammo.
I can’t from this distance determine the facts. But I think Alec Baldwin has demonstrated publicly over the years that other people are not as important as Alec Baldwin. He’s going to step on or over whomever he has to to avoid responsibility. Ms. Gutierrez-Reed is at a distinct disadvantage.
I hope they both get justice. Probably unlikely. Just my opinion.
She's totally a scapegoat!! The FBI had already cleared her, and if Baldwin hadn't been a big name, it would have been over.
Show me the evidence where Hannah is actually responsible? She wanted more time with armorer duties and to review the safety procedures with Baldwin and was refused. Show me that Hannah actually loaded the weapon with a live round knowingly. Show me that the chain of custody of the weapon from the security container, to Hannah, to the director, to Baldwin has no chinks in it. Show me the roster of who was allowed to access the weapon. I believe reasonable doubt exists that Hannah should be convicted of involuntary manslaughter. However, I have a feeling that the jury is easily swayed.
Hannah is a scapegoat
For those interested in firearm safety in the movie business there is a show on the Outdoor Channel on Wednesday night. A guy works with a Hollywood armorer. They recreate shooting scenes of action movies to see how real and possible to work in reality. It shows all the safety that is put into the experiments with all involved. I think the name of the show in Hollywood weapons.
Emily you might want to check it out it is very interesting and anyone who watches the program can see how Baldwin is guilty.
Thanks Emily, the picture of a blank cartridge shows a crimped case (to keep the powder from falling out) that is obviously different than a case with a bullet in it. That kind of blank cartridge would make noise and muzzle flash and smoke if fired, but the case is completely different than the one that had the fatal bullet in it. The holster picture appears to show actual bullets as labeled. Anyone loading the gun should have thought it obvious which was which.
I just now thought that it is possible for Baldwin to have pulled a cartridge from the gun and then loaded the gun from the cartridge loop, substituting a live cartridge that should not have been there instead of the blank, as a normal showing of gun handling before the incident. But that would have left one of the blanks or an empty space in the holster and I see no evicence that that is what happened.
It is my understanding that the police searched the equipment supply company, and were not able to find any live ammunition like the cartridge that was fired. There is no evidence that the live cartridge came from the supply company, and nobody that I know of has any good explanation for its presence on set.
I believe she is a scapegoat. Unless they can prove she loaded the gun and positive proof no one else could have changed the load with live ammo. The case against her is weak, my opinion, she said she loaded the gun, havent heard her statement on how she believed she loaded it, my take she stated loaded with the correct load. But due to being cheap Baldwin had her work several other jobs and she was that day. She gave the gun to someone else who gave it to Baldwin, the gun left her possession. They would have to prove to me that absolutely no one else could have reloaded it. But more may come out at the trial.
The court testimony from the investigator is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunfE2OAvMo
About 45 minutes.
This includes a lot of discussion about dummy ammo and one live cartridge that the investigator found in a box of dummy ammo. This live cartridge and one taken from the prop supply company were later taken apart by the FBI and photos taken, showing that the powder in these cartridges (as well as the color of the primers) was different.
While not this testimony, it is my understanding that someone unloaded the gun before the police arrived, so this one on-scene live round might have been taken from the Baldwin gun, or not. But added to the 5 reported live rounds in the holster cartridge loops (not mentioned in this testimony, I don't know why not), that would make seven total live rounds on set including the one that was fired.
There was also one other cartridge in the dummy box that did not rattle to indicate dummy, which was later taken apart by the FBI and found to be a dummy with the rattle BBs present but stuck in place.
I did not notice any discussion of blank ammo such as that pictured in this article.
There was some discussion of "patina" as forming from oxide when sitting around for a long time, but I do not believe that was the case here, I think they were artificially discolored because someone thought they looked better that way for movie props.
There were also a few empty cartridge cases, that either were previously live rounds that had been fired (indicating to me a significant danger of live rounds remaining?), or more of the discolored cases that had not yet been loaded as dummies, but they were not identified other than as being found in the Mary Kay bag with boxes of dummy ammo.
I can’t from this distance determine the facts. But I think Alec Baldwin has demonstrated publicly over the years that other people are not as important as Alec Baldwin. He’s going to step on or over whomever he has to to avoid responsibility. Ms. Gutierrez-Reed is at a distinct disadvantage.
I hope they both get justice. Probably unlikely. Just my opinion.
A Podcaster warned of possible disruptions and they found me!!
Can't. It won't let me.